How Kris Jenner went from flight attendant to billionaire through manifestation

What do you do when someone tells you no?

If you’re Kris Jenner, you walk into the scheduling office with a tray of brownies and figure it out anyway.

In this episode, Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni sit down with the iconic woman who turned “figure it out” into her mom-ager lifestyle. They talk about early jobs, showing up before you feel ready, and what it really takes to launch something that matters.

Also: why your car interior might be ruining your life.

Chapters
00:00 – who is Kris Jenner?
1:12 – restaurants in the sky?
5:04 – business rizz 101
10:01 – doing things your way (and making them work)
16:45 – vintage, resale, and why clean cars matter
21:20 - advice for young women + why Kris invested in Phia

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About The Burnouts
The Burnouts brings you raw, unfiltered conversations with today’s top founders, creators, and culture-shaping entrepreneurs. Hosted by Stanford roommates turned startup co-founders, Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni, the show goes beyond the headlines to share the real stories, lessons, and mindsets that define your 20s.

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